In 2017, the Trump administration instructed the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to avoid seven words –not George Carlin’s seven words you can’t say on the radio — but another list, which included the word “transgender.” Troops who identify as transgender are also effectively banned from US military service, with some special exceptions. It’s no secret than protections for the LGBTQ have been under attack of late, but last month a new policy has been proposed that attempts to end the debate all together. Under the Trump Administration’s proposed Title Nine policy, gender would be defined as either male or female according to a person’s genitals at birth. But even in nature, such a narrow definition of gender isn’t always the norm. Some fish species change gender throughout their lifetimes, starfish can reproduce asexually, and fungi have countless different genders. Producer Kai Brito spoke with Antonis Rokas, Professor of Biological Sciences and Biomedical Informatics, Vanderbilt University, to learn how nature portrays a more open view of gender identity.