Tony Castaneda interviews Justin LaPlante of Ride Safe Madison and Jim the Mole about their independent investigation of Uber and Lyft. They describe how they’ve been able to submit fake insurance documents and expired vehicle registrations to Uber. They also discuss driving conditions and terms of service for Uber and Lyft that leave drivers and riders without insurance coverage. The Legislature removed local control of rideshare services; state regulation is possible but requires political will.